Well ZK took away my admin rights and super demoted me so I cant do anything on the nightmare, so in reality its up to him to either promote me again so I can keep the nightmare running so for me to leave, and I dont wish to serve under zeik again...

yeah, i read that much...

I myself think that he should just return your admin rights, and stop being a dick...after all there's a lot of people that like this site, and would like to continue using it, it's not right for him to go and fuck with all these other people just to spite you...that's an asshole move, and I hope he see's this.

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if you were to leave...then what would come of the nightmare...would it still be active-ish or....would it just be like completely shut down?

i think zk is to arrogant to believe that the village could survive without him

i don't think it's cause he's arrogant, i think it's cause he believes he is right.

zk thinks he's right for a reason, i just don't know what that reason could be, and I also don't know why he believes kham is wrong,

in the end it may be that no one is right or wrong, but who knows...i sure as hell don't

:facepalm: Yanno, with all this talk of people joining other villages and whatnot, I just thought about somethin. Why hasn't there ever been a nomad rank or somethin? For those with no affiliation that just wanna roam and stuffs...

cause by all logic nomad ninjas would be killed for fear of shared secrets, selling info, and other malicious acts

Or people could just treat them as tourists and yanno...not bug them.

true but he could atleast try to explain why he is doing this instead of just cursing out everybody

and sadi you could go to the rising and become a rogue ninja
or you could stay here and try your best to maintain your village

eighther way it doesn't affect me but i hope you have fun whatever you do

lol oo yeah, we do have rogues XD

but anyway, I'm sure he has told someone what his reasoning is, since he said that he had people that thought he was right...or something like that in that long ass post he did on like the second page.

point is, instead of just going back and forth with Kham, he should directly address EVERYONE, that way EVERYONE can place their opinion, hwen people work together that's how shit get's solved...

So I want to know ZK.... why did you not die when jace killed your entire essence, why did you cheap your way out of it? Why cause so much problems if you legitly died... you underestimated jace and he killed you.

Because that was just a formality as Jace was dead to begin with. I'm not backing off that.

Why take the nightmare with you when you left? Your not the nightmare... it could have carried on, we didnt say the nightmare was the problem, we were talking specificly to you...

Because I was under the assumption that it was indeed the problem. I also thought you were going to join the Twilight because I was the problem, but seeing as it's not, no fucks are given by me then. The village is indeed rightfully yours.



I didn't bite anyone on purpose. He was dead, I completely forgot he existed, and I wanted a third Shen Gong Wu power so that shit was uncalled for. The rest of the shit is indeed true, although I didn't think I was a godhack. Oh well, guess I am. But I don't fear anything in zeros and ones.

But on the off site thing. You do remember what the the first words you said to me after this happened were? "I'mma beat yo ass". So I laughed like I do every time someone says that to me. Then "It's not funny". I don't think that counts as bringing it to me if that's all you said because that was indeed all we've said to each other in real-time since this happened.

After we had the conversation about the caged animal thing, I stepped back a bit like I said I would. After that, all communication between the two of us just died. We just did what we wanted, no checking, no heads up, no nothing. Well, I didn't check you anyway.

So, still I say FTT and their opinions of me. They won't change a thing.

But to Kham, whatever. If that's how shit has to be done now then I'm most definitely long gone. I hate being angry, even if I do learn more about myself that way. It makes me sick to be that angry for such an extended period of time. Yeah, take the Nightmare, I'll just start over. No more ZKage-ing for a while since I'm bad at it or whatever other reason Kham said. Can't remember, it's late. ((Sidenote: This is the kind of shit that would have been good on that ZKriticizm... L does posts on Kay all the damn time))

ZK. Cast in the name of Kage. Ye guilty.

I'm out.

So, anything else that I should be brought to my attention before I go on my next venture?

I never saw you as dead, If jace was dead to begin with, then yeah, I would say it didn't count too. It may be true that no one said anything in the ZKriticism, but it may be because they were scared of you? And maybe since now, the nightmare is assumingly dying, they thought they could say what they want without fear?

I'm not good with these types of things, especially since I don't know you that well, but where as people keep saying bad things about you, there are people that agree with what you did. There are people that enjoy your company and your leadership.

This is only me, but I would say "Forget it" to those who don't agree with me and welcome those who do with open arms. Its wonderous to see all those people who side with you, I hope it makes you feel better, Sorry Zk.

Zk just apologize to Kham and Kham apologize to ZK please? I dont wish to have the choas and twlight at war

Just to Terry, I'm pretty sure from what I'm getting out of this, the Twilight and Chaos will not be in the same universe and therefore will not war, so... Meh. But I dunno, people change their minds. Aaaaanyway, Might as well... Say some stuff. I guess. Somehow, I feel as if I will get judged for picking sides, which makes me not wanna do it... Perhaps I shouldn't... maybe I'll-- No, doubt's out of my head. I'm totally not picking sides TO ALL OF YOU WHO MAY THINK THAT-- I should have started saying what I had to say 400 letters ago.

Ahem. Firstly, to Kham. You say you're not a godhack, right? Maybe you aren't. But your character is powerful in general, correct? The Power Cosmic is a powerful thing, right? Now, tell me, how powerful was Kham BEFORE the power cosmic? Exactly. What's the point of getting MORE power when you're already so very powerful? Not to be rude, but that is the action pattern of a corrupt person. Corruption only seeks more power, never knowing when to stop. Somehow, I could only think that Mahk-X would continue to gain more and power until he within himself was a godhack. It's like... It's like... Like Tigen getting control over Space to go alone with his control over Dimensions. Ultimate power, right? Then, after getting control of Space, Tigen also gains control of Time. That was the only thing I could think of, sorry if it didn't help. But yeah. Doesn't Mahk-X have enough power to like, destroy or create a universe? That right there is too much power. No offense, but... It really is. Personally, I do think you are a great person, RPer and things of the like, Kham, but why not just stick to your carbon and make a new character with Power Cosmic, or something like that? I dunno. Maybe I'm just rambling. It's only a suggestion. You don't even really have to hear me out. Technically, my voice means nothing in such a situation...

Now, to ZK. I know how you feel, because as you said, I was got on for Tigen exploding Kay-no to death. Truthfully, I've come to terms with that, though I know for damn sure no one actually understood what I did (Everyone, don't say that you did, because I explained it wrong and that was bad on my part. Everything that Tigen did there was legit, it was just expressed in the wrong way and combined wrong. Again, many apologies.) Ahem, now... Fuck... what was I saying...? I had it all thought out... I was thinking about... Fuck, where'd it-- OH. OH YEAH. THERE WE GO. Okay, so. Anger issues. Yeah, you've got some. Everyone knows about this. Everyone always has. Everyone who's known knows you have anger issues. And yet, when you and Kham started this village, you both knew that risk of you getting angry and doing... stuff. Right? Right. Again, ZK, you try to please the masses. In general, it seems to work, but you do please them in the wrong ways. And even then, Kham does have his opinion, so why not ask him about things every once in a while? Maybe like "Can I kill this bitch right here?" or "Lemme just strip him of his power through his mouthhole" Or even just a "LEMME FUCK HIM UP." If Kham says no, you ask him why. If he gives you a reason, you have to try to understand such a reason, and even with that, if you still disagree, you must try to prove your point to Kham, who may not be looking at it in the same eyes as you. Being a Kage is a partnership. It doesn't work on impulse... At least, not as often as you do it. In the longrun, it does cause problems. It masks a problem for the moment, which eventually builds and explodes... like some type of souflette.. Or... however you spell that... I've never tasted one of them... I think I want to-- BESIDE THE POINT. SO YEAH. Why do you think the partnership between Khrona and Maze is going so well? Because we ask each other about certain actions and come to terms if we have a disagreement. We don't just... act. We know it could cause problems. But again, I say, this is only the voice of me, and therefore, you don't have to listen...

Were not going to get into why ZK is legitly dead after he unjustly killbanned jace when rendered his death -void-. Whoops.... I mean you come back from death all the time, so how come jace couldnt come back come death...

Tigen I utterly disagree with you,,, for you like most people fail to see the larger picutre, I am not a power hungry individual principally because I have to exersize so much restraint with you ninja. I can lift 6 septillion tons. So a global fist should kill anyone who took it, but I choose to belittle my own power for the sake of other people. With the power cosmic, what little of it I have, I can do so many things, but choose not to for the sake of other people, infact I pretty much refrain from using it unless Im fighting someone of my calibur. The vast obtainable powers of the power cosmic is unknown to everyone on the sites except for porbably orochi and L and spade, so they automaticly assume that because I have it im going to bs my way out of things, which I dont.

What I use the power cosmic as is a overly concussive destructive force, and a means to control time.

Technically, I get telekenesis, telepathy, I can control minds, I can create galaxies, I can move faster than light speed, I can destory planets on a whim, and other various pwnage abillities.... Im a fair judge of whats cheap and whats not. Thanks for your concern, but ZK fears what he does not know about, the power cosmic being one of those things, so It was not suprise that he tried to take it away.

and besides 90 percent of the time when ZK asks me or zeik to kill someone he does it anyway...

ZK no one said that you were bad at being a kage, your various idiosyncracies when it comes to other people are things that you need to be chekced upon. You didnt have to leave, all you have to do is just know about yourself so that you can continue being a better kage.

OH. OKAY, I GOT IT NOW. So you needed a way to control time in the same way ZK does with the Shen Gong Wu, right? So, in the first place, if he did not absorb Shen Gong Wu, you would have no real reason to have the Power Cosmic, right? Okay... Um... I think I get it... But... Wait... Maybe... OKAY. Maybe you weren't power hungry, but in a sense you were trying to match the abilities of ZK? Maybe you both had too much power, you know? Really, I'm trying to understand why you and he would want so much power in general... Because you two couldn't control the natural order of things, and you both felt you needed to? Maybe that's how the problem started. Control. You both can't control everything, and you shouldn't try. To control everything would mean you'd have to be omnipotent, and therefore a god and therefore, a godHACK... or something. I guess. I dunno, just thoughts in my head trying to connect. And I wasn't trying to say you WERE power hungry, I was just saying... With so much power you had already, there wasn't an alternative way to get ONLY time control instead of the granted other effects of the Power Cosmic? It's a confusing matter to me since I have no real history with this dodecagram and this The Void and no real knowledge of the Power Cosmic other than what you just told me... I'm moreso trying to understand. ;;